Despite Jeffrey Epstein's death, how his accusers could still find a measure of justice
2019-08-12 00:00:00


AMNA NAWAZ: Attorney General William Barrtoday sharply criticized the management of(1)
AMNA NAWAZ:司法部长威廉巴尔今天严厉批评管理层

theManhattan federal jail where wealthy financier(2)
曼哈顿联邦监狱,富裕的金融家

Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cellthis weekend.(3)
本周末杰弗里爱泼斯坦被发现死在他的牢房里。

As John Yang reports, Epstein's death doesnot mean the end to the federal sex-trafficking(4)
正如约翰杨报道的那样,爱泼斯坦的死并不意味着联邦性交易的终结

investigation thatled to his indictment.(5)
导致他被起诉的调查。

JOHN YANG, PBS NEWSHOUR CORRESPONDENT: Amna,in his remarks today, the attorney general(6)
约翰杨,PBS NEWSHOUR记者:Amna,今天在他的发言中,司法部长

also pledged that any co-conspirators shouldnot rest easy.(7)
还承诺任何共谋者都不应轻易放松。

The victims, he said, deserve justice andthey(8)
他说,受害者应该得到正义和他们

will get it.(9)
会得到它。

So where does the case go now?(10)
那么案件现在去哪儿了?

Jessica Roth is a professor at Yeshiva University'sCardozo School of Law, and joins us from New(11)
Jessica Roth是Yeshiva大学Cardozo法学院的教授,并从New加入我们

York.(12)
约克。

Jessica Roth, thanks.(13)
杰西卡罗斯,谢谢。

What do prosecutors in the case of the UnitedStates versus Jeffrey Epstein do now(14)
美国与杰弗里爱泼斯坦的检察官现在做了什么

that Jeffrey Epstein is dead?(15)
杰弗里爱泼斯坦死了吗?

JESSICA ROTH, YESHIVA UNIVERSITY: Well, thecase against Jeffrey Epstein himself will(16)
JESSICA ROTH,YESHIVA UNIVERSITY:嗯,杰弗里爱泼斯坦自己的案子将会是

bedismissed because he's now deceased and you(17)
被解雇,因为他现在已经去世了

can't proceed with a criminal case againsta person who's(18)
不能对某人进行刑事诉讼

dead, but the overall criminal investigationwill continue.(19)
死了,但整体刑事调查将继续进行。

Over the weekend, U.S. attorney for the southerndistrict of New York, Geoff Berman issued(20)
上周末,纽约南部地区的美国检察官杰夫伯曼发布了这一消息

a statement in which he made clear that thecriminal(21)
他在声明中明确指出了罪犯

investigation would continue and he said thathis office would continue to stand for the(22)
调查将继续,他说他的办公室将继续支持

victims, stand upfor the victims, and, in particular, he pointed(23)
受害者,为受害者挺立起来,特别是他指出

to the fact that Jeffrey Epstein had beencharged in one count(24)
因为杰弗里爱泼斯坦被指控一次

of the indictment with conspiring with othersto engage in sex trafficking and that's significant(25)
起诉与他人密谋从事性交易,这是重要的

because thelaw of conspiracy requires proof that two(26)
因为阴谋法要求证明两个

or more persons agreed to commit a crime.(27)
或更多人同意犯罪。

And what that means is that Mr. Berman wasprepared to prove in court that at least one(28)
这意味着伯曼先生准备在法庭上证明至少有一个

other person andpossibly others were engaged in a criminal(29)
其他人和可能的其他人都是犯罪分子

conspiracy with Jeffrey Epstein.(30)
与杰弗里爱泼斯坦的阴谋。

JOHN YANG: Well, we know that in the Flor-- that highly criticized Florida non-prosecution(31)
杨约翰:嗯,我们知道在弗洛尔 - 那个高度批评佛罗里达州的不起诉

agreement,there are named -- were named four potential(32)
协议,有名称 - 被命名为四个潜力

co-conspirators who were not charged, andin this New York(33)
没有被起诉的同谋者,以及纽约这个

indictment, there were three people citedthough not named who also participated in(34)
起诉书中,有三个人虽然没有提到,但也参加过

this.(35)
这个。

Do you thinkwe're likely to see indictments against those(36)
你认为我们可能会看到对这些人的起诉

folks coming up in the coming days?(37)
人们会在未来几天出现?

JESSICA ROTH: I don't know about the timeline,but certainly from everything that's been(38)
JESSICA ROTH:我不知道时间表,但肯定来自一切

indicated bythe U.S. attorney's office and what's been(39)
美国检察官办公室表示,这是什么

publicly reported, it would seem that theyhave significant(40)
公开报道,似乎他们有重大意义

evidence against other people.(41)
反对其他人的证据。

As you mentioned in the indictment, thereare people identified not by name(42)
正如你在起诉书中提到的那样,有些人不是通过名字来识别的

but in terms of the role that they played.(43)
但就他们扮演的角色而言。

So, clearly, the U.S. attorney's office hasevidence against those(44)
所以,显然,美国检察官办公室有证据反对这些

other people and they will be pursuing thatinvestigation and looking also at the evidence(45)
其他人和他们将继续进行调查并查看证据

that was collectedduring the search of Jeffrey Epstein's home(46)
这是在寻找杰弗里爱泼斯坦的家时收集的

that was done on the day of his arrest tosee what that yields at(47)
这是在他被捕的那一天完成的,看看收益率是多少

the involvement of co-conspirators and accomplices.(48)
同谋和同谋的介入。

It's been reported that his pilots have beensubpoenaed for their testimony, and they would(49)
据报道,他的飞行员已经被传唤了他们的证词,他们会这样做

have significantinformation about who was else may have been(50)
有关于其他人可能的重要信息

involved in arranging the travel for the sextrafficking.(51)
参与安排性交易旅行。

SoI think we need to be patient as the investigators(52)
所以我认为我们需要像调查人员一样耐心等待

reorient to a case in which Jeffrey Epsteinwill not sit at(53)
重新定位杰弗里爱泼斯坦不会坐的案例

the table, but Mr. Berman made clear thatthe investigation is ongoing.(54)
但是,伯曼先生明确表示调查正在进行中。

JOHN YANG: And even without a conviction,can prosecutors go after his assets or in(55)
杨扬:即使没有定罪,检察官也可以追查他的资产或在他身上

this case, I guess,his estate?(56)
这个案子,我想,他的遗产?

JESSICA ROTH: Yes.(57)
JESSICA ROTH:是的。

So there's still a process in which the U.S.attorney's office, through its U.S.(58)
因此,美国检察官办公室通过其美国仍然有一个过程

attorneys office, can go after assets thatwere used to facilitate the crimes that have(59)
律师办公室,可以追查用于促进犯罪的资产

been alleged here.(60)
在这里被指控。

So,for example, his Manhattan town house, allegedly,(61)
因此,例如,他的曼哈顿联排别墅,据说,

was involved -- was used as a place wheresome of the(62)
参与 - 被用作一些地方

unlawful activity occurred.(63)
发生了非法活动。

If his properties in the Virgin Island wereinvolved.(64)
如果他涉及维尔京群岛的财产。

Those also could besought through what’s called a civil asset(65)
那些也可以通过所谓的民事资产来寻求

forfeiture proceeding.(66)
没收诉讼。

The advantage of that, first, is that it canbe handled by the U.S. attorney’s office,(67)
其优点首先在于它可由美国检察官办公室处理,

and any assets that wererecovered distributed to victims for restitution(68)
以及收回的任何资产分发给受害者以便归还

through the federal government.(69)
通过联邦政府。

It also allows a proof bypreponderance of evidence standard which is(70)
它还允许通过优势证据标准证明

a civil standard of proof rather than thecriminal beyond a(71)
一个民事的证据标准,而不是一个超越的罪犯

reasonable doubt standard.(72)
合理怀疑标准。

It allows offers an advantage frankly, ofallowing the narrative of what(73)
它允许坦率地提供优势,允许叙述什么

unfolded in his crimes to be told, becausemuch of the same proof would be offered that(74)
在他的罪行中展开,因为很多同样的证据都会被提供

would have beenoffered in a criminal trial against Jeffrey(75)
本来可以在针对杰弗里的刑事审判中提出

Epstein.(76)
爱泼斯坦。

JOHN YANG: And, of course, this doesn't doanything to the civil lawsuits that might(77)
杨扬:当然,这对可能的民事诉讼没有任何作用

be coming fromaccusers?(78)
来自指控者?

JESSICA ROTH: No, those can proceed as well.(79)
JESSICA ROTH:不,那些也可以继续。

So, the accusers have multiple avenues throughwhich(80)
因此,控告者有多种途径可供选择

they can seek some measure of justice.(81)
他们可以寻求一些正义。

None will be the same, of course, as actuallyconfronting Jeffrey(82)
当然,没有人会像杰弗里所面对的那样

Epstein in a criminal case.(83)
爱泼斯坦在刑事案件中。

But through the civil lawsuits, they can pursuehis estate.(84)
但通过民事诉讼,他们可以追查他的财产。

As I mentioned, thecivil asset forfeiture proceedings against(85)
正如我所提到的,民事资产没收诉讼程序

specific assets that were used to facilitatehis crimes is another(86)
用于促进其犯罪的特定资产是另一种

avenue of potential relief, and then, of course,as we discussed a moment ago, there's a possibility(87)
可能的救济途径,当然,正如我们刚才所讨论的那样,有可能

ofcriminal proceedings against others who were(88)
对其他人的刑事诉讼

his accomplices and co-conspirators.(89)
他的同谋和同谋。

JOHN YANG: Jessica Roth of the Cardozo Schoolof Law, thank you very much.(90)
JOHN YANG:卡多佐法学院的Jessica Roth,非常感谢。

ROTH: Thank you.(91)
罗斯:谢谢。


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