Report suggests Placido Domingo's sexual impropriety was an 'open secret' in opera world
2019-08-13 00:00:00


AMNA NAWAZ: With more performances than anyother opera singer in history, Placido Domingo(1)
AMNA NAWAZ:Placido Domingo的表演数量超过历史上任何其他歌剧演员

holds a special place in the performing arts.(2)
在表演艺术中占有特殊的位置。

Domingo is not just one of the most recognizablefaces after a career that's lasted nearly(3)
多明戈不仅仅是一个持续近乎职业生涯中最知名的面孔之一

five decades.(4)
五十年。

He's also a leader and performer with realpower.(5)
他也是具有实力的领导者和表演者。

But in the wake of #MeToo, there are now aseries of revelations by the “A.P.” about(6)
但是在#MeToo之后,现在有一系列关于“AP”的启示

his alleged personal behavior, allegationsthat raise disturbing questions about the(7)
他所谓的个人行为,指控提出令人不安的问题

use of that power.(8)
使用那种力量。

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
AMNA NAWAZ: For decades, Placido Domingo hasbeen one of the biggest names in opera.(9)
AMNA NAWAZ:几十年来,Placido Domingo一直是歌剧界最着名的人物之一。

A multi-Grammy Award winner and one of theiconic Three Tenors, his star power and industry(10)
多格莱美奖得主,标志性的三个男高音之一,他的明星力量和行业

status are beyond compare.(11)
地位无可比拟。

The 78-year-old Spaniard currently conductsand directs the Los Angeles Opera, and he(12)
这位78岁的西班牙人目前正在指挥和指导洛杉矶歌剧院

still attracts sell-out crowds across theglobe.(13)
仍然吸引着全球各地的人气汹涌。

But a new "Associated Press" report out todaysays that rise to fame was littered with sexual(14)
但今天发布的一份新的“美联社”报道说,声名鹊起,充满了性欲

misconduct.(15)
不当行为。

The story cites nine women, eight singersand one dancer, who say Domingo harassed them(16)
这个故事引用了九位女性,八位歌手和一位舞蹈演员的话,他们说多明戈骚扰他们

and tried to pressure them into sexual relationshipsover 30 years, often at venues where he held(17)
30年来,他们试图强迫他们建立性关系,通常是在他所担任的场所

a managerial position.(18)
管理职位。

All but one requested anonymity.(19)
除一人外,其他人都要求匿名。

Patricia Wulf sang at the Washington NationalOpera in the late 1990s and 2000s.(20)
帕特里夏沃尔夫在20世纪90年代末和21世纪初在华盛顿国家歌剧院演唱。

Domingo was the artistic director there andlater the general director.(21)
多明戈是那里的艺术总监,后来担任总导演。

PATRICIA WULF, FORMER OPERA SINGER: He wouldcome up to me this close and he would say,(22)
PATRICIA WULF,前歌剧演唱家:他会这么接近我,他会说,

Patricia, do you have to go home tonight?(23)
帕特里夏,你今晚要回家吗?

And it was arresting, it was very difficult.(24)
这很令人抓狂,非常困难。

AMNA NAWAZ: Wulf said she started hiding fromDomingo.(25)
AMNA NAWAZ:Wulf说她开始躲避多明戈。

PATRICIA WULF: I don't know how it could havebeen shoved under the rug as long as it has(26)
PATRICIA WULF:我不知道它是如何被推到地毯下的,只要它有

been.(27)
是。

It's gone on long enough.(28)
它已经持续了很长时间。

It needs to stop.(29)
它需要停止。

AMNA NAWAZ: The women's stories followed apattern.(30)
AMNA NAWAZ:女性的故事遵循一种模式。

They say Domingo would push for private meetings,under the guise of offering professional advice.(31)
他们说多明戈会以提供专业建议的幌子推动私人会议。

That Domingo offered them jobs and then sometimespunished professionally those who refused(32)
多明戈为他们提供了工作,然后有时候专业地惩罚那些拒绝的人

his advances.(33)
他的进步。

Seven of the nine said they felt their careerswere negatively impacted when they told him(34)
九人中有七人表示,当他们告诉他时,他们觉得自己的职业生涯受到了负面影响

no.(35)
没有。

Three said he forcibly kissed them and onesaid he put his hand down her skirt.(36)
三人说他强行亲吻他们,一人说他把手放在裙子上。

In a statement, Domingo called the allegations,quote, deeply troubling, and as presented,(37)
在一份声明中,多明戈称这些指控,引述,令人深感不安,并且如所示,

inaccurate.(38)
不准确的。

I believed that all of my interactions andrelationships were always welcomed and consensual.(39)
我相信我所有的互动和关系总是受到欢迎和自愿。

However, I recognize that the rules and standardsby which we are -- and should be -- measured(40)
但是,我认识到我们应该 - 并且应该 - 衡量的规则和标准

against today are very different than theywere in the past.(41)
今天与今天的情况截然不同。

PATRICIA WULF: When someone comes this closeand kind of smiles in a wry smile and says,(42)
PATRICIA WULF:当有人亲切地笑着说,并且笑着说,

do you have to go home?(43)
你要回家吗?

I think that was pretty clear.(44)
我认为这很清楚。

But I -- there were no misconceptions in mymind.(45)
但我 - 我心中没有误解。

AMNA NAWAZ: None of the women had documentationof Domingo's actions such as phone messages.(46)
AMNA NAWAZ:没有一个女人有Domingo的行动记录,如电话留言。

But the “A.P.” talked to three dozen singers,dancers, musicians and others who said they(47)
但是“AP”与三十位歌手,舞者,音乐家和其他人说过他们

had witnessed Domingo acting in a sexuallyinappropriate way.(48)
目睹了多明戈以不合时宜的方式行事。

(END VIDEOTAPE)
AMNA NAWAZ: Let's further explore the reactionto this news and wider questions about this(49)
AMNA NAWAZ:让我们进一步探讨对这一新闻的反应和更广泛的问题

abuse of power in the field.(50)
在现场滥用权力。

Peggy McGlone has written about this issueextensively for “The Washington Post”(51)
Peggy McGlone为“华盛顿邮报”广泛撰写了关于这个问题的文章

and she joins me now.(52)
她现在加入了我。

Peggy McGlone, welcome to the “NewsHour”.(53)
Peggy McGlone,欢迎来到“NewsHour”。

Now, the story broke just today.(54)
现在,这个故事就在今天破裂了。

But tell me, what has been the broader reactionwithin the opera and the classical music world?(55)
但请告诉我,歌剧和古典音乐界的广泛反应是什么?

PEGGY MCGLONE, THE WASHINGTON POST: Well,there was swift reaction actually today.(56)
华盛顿邮报:PEGGY MCGLONE:嗯,今天实际上有很快的反应。

The Los Angeles Opera announced an outsideinvestigation and then several organizations,(57)
洛杉矶歌剧院宣布了一项外部调查,然后是几个组织,

the Philadelphia Orchestra and the San FranciscoOpera, canceled upcoming performances with(58)
费城交响乐团和旧金山歌剧院取消了即将到来的表演

Placido.(59)
普拉西多。

AMNA NAWAZ: So, there's been some reactionand actions already taken.(60)
AMNA NAWAZ:所以,已经采取了一些反应和行动。

One of the commonalities I took away fromsome of the allegations in the “Associated(61)
我从“Associated”中的一些指控中剔除了一个共同点

Press” report was this idea of a whispernetwork when it came to Placido Domingo, that(62)
按“报告是这个关于Placido Domingo的耳语网络的想法,那个

it was sort of an open secret among women,he was someone to be avoided.(63)
这对女性来说是一个公开的秘密,他是一个可以避免的人。

You've reported in this space for a while.(64)
你已经在这个空间报道了一段时间。

Is that anything that had ever come up before?(65)
这是以前有过的吗?

PEGGY MCGLONE: Right.(66)
PEGGY MCGLONE:对。

That is a common thread that we've heard.(67)
这是我们听过的一个共同点。

My colleague Anne Midgette and I did a bigreport last year.(68)
去年,我和我的同事Anne Midgette做了一份大报告。

We talked with more than 50 musicians and-- about others, not Placido Domingo.(69)
我们与50多位音乐家进行了交谈,而其他人则谈到了Placido Domingo。

But that was a common -- a common thing thatwe heard, that women would help each other(70)
但这是一种常见的 - 我们听到的一个常见的事情是,女性会相互帮助

by, you know, sharing what they thought withrumors or other, you know, firsthand experiences,(71)
通过,你知道,通过谣言或其他来分享他们的想法,你知道,第一手经验,

don't be alone with him, don't ride the elevatorwith him, don't let him walk you to your car,(72)
不要和他单独在一起,不要和他一起乘电梯,不要让他带你去你的车,

have an escape plan.(73)
有一个逃生计划。

It was a myriad examples of how to deal withthese kinds of people.(74)
这是一个如何处理这类人的无数例子。

AMNA NAWAZ: One of the allegations is thathe retaliated against women who refused his(75)
AMNA NAWAZ:其中一项指控是他对拒绝他的女性进行报复

advances.(76)
前进。

Help us understand a little bit about howpower is distributed.(77)
帮助我们了解一下如何分配功率。

I mean, Placido Domingo held a number of topmanagerial positions at a number of organizations.(78)
我的意思是,Placido Domingo在许多组织担任过多个高级管理职位。

What kind of influence would he exert in thoseorganizations?(79)
他会对这些组织产生什么样的影响?

PEGGY MCGLONE: These top people have controlfor reasons like casting, for recommendations,(80)
PEGGY MCGLONE:这些顶级人物可以控制铸造,推荐,

especially with young artists who are startingout, and we heard this a lot last year, Anne(81)
尤其是那些刚开始的年轻艺术家,去年我们听到了很多,安妮

and I, where you wouldn't want to rebuff someonewho could give you a recommendation or sign(82)
而我,你不想拒绝那些可以给你推荐或签名的人

you up for an audition or get you into thenext training program that would be the next(83)
你参加试镜或让你进入下一个培训计划

step in your career.(84)
迈向你的职业生涯。

And so, part of it was that there were thesechoices that had to be made that, you know,(85)
所以,部分原因是必须做出这些选择,你知道,

that these young women, many of them startingout didn't want to ruin things before they(86)
这些年轻女性,他们中的许多人一开始并不想破坏他们之前的事情

even got going.(87)
甚至开始了。

AMNA NAWAZ: Peggy, you reported today thatDomingo in particular was invested and active(88)
AMNA NAWAZ:佩吉,你今天报道说,多明戈特别是投资和活跃

in a lot of those young artist training programs.(89)
在很多年轻的艺术家培训课程中。

You spoke to a woman who participated in oneof those.(90)
你跟一个参与其中一个的女人说过话。

What did she have to tell you?(91)
她有什么要告诉你的?

PEGGY MCGLONE: Yes, yes.(92)
PEGGY MCGLONE:是的,是的。

So, she was not the target of him herself,but she said that it was, you know, well-known.(93)
所以,她本人并不是他的目标,但她说这是众所周知的。

It's again that open secret in the community.(94)
这又是社区公开的秘密。

You know, you just go about your day knowingthat he was going to make unwanted advances(95)
你知道,你只是知道他将要做出不必要的进展

or in the story she was telling me, have avery open -- you know, everybody knows about(96)
或者在她告诉我的故事中,有一个非常开放的 - 你知道,每个人都知道

it, sexual relationship with a young artist.(97)
它,与年轻艺术家的性关系。

And no one knew what to do about it.(98)
没有人知道如何处理它。

And then she said that that sort of createsa culture where people feel like this behavior(99)
然后她说,那种创造了一种让人们感觉像是这种行为的文化

is acceptable or there will be no consequences,and then others, maybe people who aren’t(100)
是可接受的,或者没有后果,然后是其他人,也许是没有后果的人

superstar status, then have the opportunityor take advantage of that to do terrible things(101)
超级明星的地位,然后有机会或利用那个做可怕的事情

themselves.(102)
他们自己。

And she also talked about how that power dynamic,who is going to believe a young artist over,(103)
而且她还谈到了这种力量的动态,谁会相信一位年轻的艺术家,

you know, a major superstar, and so, that'salso, you know, part of this equation.(104)
你知道,一个主要的超级巨星,所以,你知道,这也是这个等式的一部分。

AMNA NAWAZ: You mentioned obviously L.A.,is that they're investigating.(105)
AMNA NAWAZ:你明显提到洛杉矶,他们正在调查。

Philadelphia has rescinded an invitation forDomingo to perform there in September.(106)
费城已取消邀请多明戈在9月份在那里演出。

But Salzburg, Austria, said he will stillbe performing there later in August.(107)
但奥地利萨尔茨堡表示他将在8月晚些时候在那里演出。

Peggy, I want to ask you, because you havewritten about a number of other people, other(108)
佩吉,我想问你,因为你写了很多其他人,其他人

high-profile figures in this world, who havefaced similar allegations.(109)
这个世界上备受瞩目的人物,他们面临着类似的指控。

What have you learned from their cases thattells you how these kinds of allegations can(110)
你从他们的案例中学到了什么,告诉你这些指控如何

be handled in this world?(111)
在这个世界上处理?

PEGGY MCGLONE: You know, it does matter, youknow, and it is different organization to(112)
PEGGY MCGLONE:你知道,它确实重要,你知道,这是不同的组织

organization.(113)
组织。

Last year, the Cleveland Orchestra also investigatedwith an outside company, and they posted their(114)
去年,克利夫兰管弦乐团还与一家外部公司进行了调查,他们发布了他们的

findings on their Website.(115)
他们网站上的调查结果

And not only did they confirm the allegationsthat were in our story about William Preucil,(116)
他们不仅证实了我们关于William Preucil的故事中的指控,

but they found another musician who also wasaccused.(117)
但是他们找到了另一位被指控的音乐家。

And so, they fired both of them.(118)
所以,他们解雇了他们两个。

But then James Levine sued after he was firedfrom the Metropolitan Opera last year, the(119)
但是詹姆斯莱文在去年被大都会歌剧院解雇后起诉了詹姆斯莱文

result of similar sexual harassment allegation,and they settled recently.(120)
类似的性骚扰指控的结果,他们最近解决了。

And neither side will say, you know, whatthe agreement was.(121)
你们知道,双方都不会说协议是什么。

So, you know, it's hard to say what the aftermathof these things are.(122)
所以,你知道,很难说这些事情的后果是什么。

AMNA NAWAZ: Still remains to be seen.(123)
AMNA NAWAZ:还有待观察。

Peggy McGlone of "The Washington Post," thankyou so much.(124)
“华盛顿邮报”的Peggy McGlone,非常感谢你。

PEGGY MCGLONE: Oh, thank you.(125)
PEGGY MCGLONE:哦,谢谢。


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